June 20, 2018
How to Show a different slide and its current “states” on rollover
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June 20, 2018
How to Show a different slide and its current “states” on rollover
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I am attempting to use a smart shape rollover state, or even a standard rollover, on slide “A” to show slide “B” and its current state(s). Slide “B” needs to be visible on rollover in an area on Slide “A”.  (Slide “A” and “B” are in the same project).  It would be preferable to have all functionality available on the Slide “B” “projection” though not mandatory.

The purpose is to view “visited” states on Slide “B” within a smaller image area on Slide “A” so the participant can readily see what links from Slide “B” have or have not been visited.

My experimentation with Rollover Slidelets has been fruitless so far 🙁

All advice is welcome and appreciated.

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2018-06-21 15:38:10
2018-06-21 15:38:10

Hello Lieve,
I have a clear understanding of the InBuilt States and in fact a Custom State has been explored as well though could use a little more investigation of its full potential.

Also, yes I am aware of the limitations on a mobile device. No mobile devices will be used as this is a secure government network (CDC) and everything will be internal on desktops / laptops.

There are indeed partial solutions to achieve a partial goal but they will take the user away from the current slide they need to be viewing (Slide A) and involve an unwanted / round trip back to Slide A when they need to choose a link from slide B, C,D, E.

So basically an out of the box solution would need to achieve the following parameters.

1. Allow the participant to view the states of a separate slide than currently on via a projection of the slide current image / states on the current slide

2. Not take the user away from the current slide unless they choose to do so after reviewing the states of the other slide image projections ( B,C,D E etc.) to decide which one they want to go to. ( Kind of a branching idea actually but without “forced” navigations)

In a way the actions I am trying to achieve is a much like a Custom TOC that tracks the slide that users have already visited however the custom TOC is spread out on several slides throughout the project.

Also yes I am aware the the inbuilt TOC can achieve much of what I describe however it was shot down at the top levels of leadership 🙁

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2018-06-21 15:46:46
2018-06-21 15:46:46
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A slide has no ‘state’ in the sense of Captivate, but you mean that you want to see if a slide has been visited or not. And you also want to allow to navigate to that slide. Indeed the TOC in Overlay is exactly doing that. I was thinking about a list with hyperlinks in a rollover shape, but not sure if that would be possible with images of the slides. Look here:
http://blog.lilybiri.com/more-is-in-a-dot-dot-dot-hyperlink-dropdown-menu.
The hyperlink could be used to trigger a shared action that shows the thumbnail of the slide with or without a cover (shape) that can be used to do the jump to slide. Beware: didn’t test it out, just thinking aloud!

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2018-06-22 15:30:03
2018-06-22 15:30:03
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Some helpful insight on the link you provided however dont think it will solve my parameters at %100 ….. I am close to the conclusion that some special scripting (Java, or AS3) will be needed. I dont think it would be very complicated to script however I dont have the experience with Java or AS3…… I was hoping that someone on the Forum may have a script they could share to get me started and I could then modify it with the appropriate target links I need

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2018-06-22 18:13:04
2018-06-22 18:13:04
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Certainly not Java, maybe Javascript but doubt it will be easy (I use JS when CP’s functionality is not sufficient). No AS3, please, SWF output is almost dead. Advanced/Shared actions are converted to JS on runtime, but although I have 10 years of experience in solving complcated situations for clients with those actions, have no idea how to make other slides visible as thumbnails on a slide. That was the reason I proposed some possible alternatives, those links were only meant as a start.

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2018-06-21 08:50:51
2018-06-21 08:50:51

Are you aware of the fact that rollovers are not supported for HTML output, although they may work on desktop/laptop screens, but never on any mobile device? I could create a workflow, but want first to be sure that you know this. It will not be future proof at all.
Certainly never do use the Rollover slidelet anymore.
Cannot you think outside of the box for another possibility to show the learner which slides have been visited? I may be wrong, but you seem bit confused by states. There is a huge difference between InBuilt states like Rollover, Down, Visited (CP2017 only) for interactive buttons and custom states. The InBuilt states appear in a specific situation and cannot be controlled the same way as custom states.

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