July 26, 2018
Custom Quizzing
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July 26, 2018
Custom Quizzing
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Hello there!

I’m facing difficulties in the area of custom quizzing.

First things first, the reason I’m not using the inbuilt quizzing slides is, that I want to ask the learner mc questions, where the answer options are images (or image-filled shapes for that matter). So my goal is to have a couple of questions, normal mc, mc with image answer options, true/false questions. Ideally, I would be able to use some (costumized but) inbuilt question slides plus fully costum ones.

So I created a slide with 4 of said image answer-options. Let’s say, the answer is correctly answered when 3 of the 4 answer options are selected. In order to use this slide with standard quiz reporting, as far as I see it, I would have to put a button on the slide that by clicking/”on success” checks via advanced actions if the answer is correct. Based on the outcome I would then have to display a further button. So one of two buttons would be shown, either one for the correct answer or a different one for incorrect answer. The button that is shown based on a correct answer would by clicking/”on success” take the learner to the next slide and is including in the quiz. The button for when the answer was not correct would take the learner to the next slide an not be included in the quiz.

So far so good, but there are two problems in this for me:

Firstly, it bothers me, that I need the learner to click on two buttons – one to check for correctness and one to continue/and to be included in the quiz. I do not want to display a “Correct”, “Incomplete” or other kind of message, so really from the viewpoint of the learner, it would be clicking a button and then clicking another button.

Secondly, to be able to add different points based on the “extent of correctness” (e. g. 2 points if any one of four answer options are correctly selected/not selected, 4 points if any two,…), that would make an unmanagable amount of depending buttons and advanced actions.

So I was thinking of not using any inbuilt quizzing features at all, also not the prebuilt variables. That would make life easier BUT I doubt that the reporting to an LMS would be walk through the park then. Ideally I would be able to directly, manually via advanced actions add points to the cpInfoQuiz… total score variable, o that I can also use inbuilt question slides in the mix. Please, is there a way to do that?

I am also open to other suggestions. What I do not want to read in the answers though is something like “Why don’t you just display a correct/incorrect message to the learner, because pedagogy”. I do not want to display these kinds of messages. For any other helpful thoughts or input I will be very thankful!

Best regards,

Christina

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2019-01-17 06:20:47
2019-01-17 06:20:47

I am creating a branching quiz which has the scoring on the next button when a user selects the right answer however if they select the wrong answer, I do not know how to get this to reflect in the scoring.  I have actually been dealing with Adobe Captivate who have said I must just use a normal question slide, however I want to create a custom quiz which seems possible, I am just missing the know how on how to reflect the incorrect selections.

Currently the scoring shows the amount if correct questions only so 5 out of 5, when in fact there are 7 questions

 

Please help!

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2018-08-02 14:49:38
2018-08-02 14:49:38

I actually now came up with a solution by myself, so that the custom image-mc question is included in the quiz, using only system quizzing variables and only requires the learner to click one button after selecting the mc answer options. It only distinguishes right and wrong though, no partial scoring (so far, still working on that).

What I did is the following:
I created variables for each of the four answer options. By clicking on one of the answers 1) the state of that button changes 2) the associated variable is assigned with 0 or 1 for unselected or selected. In a second tab of the same action I built a conditional action that if all 4 variables associated with the answer options are correctly selected/unselected would show a continue button (that is included in the quiz) or else a different continue button, that is not included in the quiz. This I did for all 4 answer-option-buttons, so each of them has their own advanced action with the two tabs. Works perfectly fine.

Two issues arise though with all of my costum quizzing slides: The prebuilt quiz review doesn’t work. Any ideas on that topic?

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2018-07-27 15:34:04
2018-07-27 15:34:04

Have you looked into Paul Wilson? He has a lot of Youtube videos. He has one on creating custom quiz slide using fluid boxes. You do have to have a “submit” button and then a “correct” and “incorrect answer” button and you attach the points to the “correct” answer. I believe there is a charge for that one but it is worth the money!

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2018-07-30 06:35:33
2018-07-30 06:35:33
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Hello there and thanks for your reply! That actually sounds exactly like the video I’ve watched on that topic, it definitly was by Paul Wilson. It for sure is a workflow that does what it’s supposed to, but unfortunately it requires said two buttons.

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2018-07-30 06:47:39
2018-07-30 06:47:39
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Workflow taken over from my old blog post (written 7 years ago) without any reference. Typical for new ethics! You can find a lot like that.
http://blog.lilybiri.com/report-custom-questions-part-2

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2018-07-27 09:38:25
2018-07-27 09:38:25

Quizzing system variables are read only. I posted a link to a blog post where I am discussing their use, but it has to be approved before it will appear.
I don’t know of another way to transfer the content of a user variable to the read only quizzing system variables than with the CpExtra widget or with JS.

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2018-07-27 09:39:50
2018-07-27 09:39:50
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Thank you!

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2018-07-27 06:55:02
2018-07-27 06:55:02

Hello there and thank you for responding.
I actually do not know about your blog. I have found this solution on youtube, but good to hear about some in-depth Captivate blogs out there. I’m not sure if you’re saying that by using JS I could or could not change the value of the quizzing system variables (without the CpExtra widget)?

About the two shape-buttons sized to fill the slide: I don’t really understand how that would work exactly. I’m guessing what you’re trying to suggest is using a regular visible (shape)button for the first button to check the answer, and the two buttons for correct/incorrect answer as the transparent ones. So you’re basically referring to a “click/tap anywhere to continue” situation, is that right? Assining a shortcut is not an option as I am designing mainly for touchscreens.
That would also mean, I’m thinking, that clicking the first button that will check if the answer is correct, needs to also disable all the answer-options buttons, as the answer must not be change after that point.

I am still considering using all costum created variables. Can you recommend some ressources that discuss reporting custom variables to LMS (e. g. Success Factors)?

Best regards,
Christina

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2018-07-27 07:55:48
2018-07-27 07:55:48
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On YouTube? OK, many ”experts have stolen from my blog without mentioning the source because everything you told in the original questions really reminded me several of my articles. Compare the date of release of the videos with the ones on my blog.
Go ahead, ask the authors of the videos to explain. That is what is mostly lacking in the videos. Core of the workflows is seldom explained.
I have posts explaining use of quizzing system variables, all variables with detailed use cases.

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2018-07-27 09:16:43
2018-07-27 09:16:43
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I’m sorry to hear that this has happened to you. I am though not going to discuss copyright issues or other bloggers/youtubers competences in this community board. I’m just looking to exchange with other e-learning creators. Any kind of help is certainly greatly appreciated.

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2018-07-27 09:29:04
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2018-07-26 11:26:38
2018-07-26 11:26:38

What you are telling you have found at least partially in my blog posts (the resporting custom questions, part 2 explains the workflow with 2 buttons). The workflow with two buttons that is bothering you is the same for the default quiz slides: they have to click twice as well. If you want exactly the same workflow you could make the two shape buttons transparent and extend them to the size of the quiz slide. Beware: that will need some tweaking because the embedded quiz object are on top of the stack. But you can link the shortcut ‘Y’ to the shape buttons.
Partial scoring to be manageable needs JS scripting.
You must have missed my blog post about quizzing system variables, in Captivate they are read only. I you want to change the value, you need user variables an JS (again). A intermediate solution is to use the CpExtra widget (InfoSemantics – Australia). One of its features allows to transfer the result calculated in a user variable to the score variables. It is not free, but more than worth its cost.

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