March 20, 2020
Restore placeholder in quizmaster
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March 20, 2020
Restore placeholder in quizmaster
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Hi,

I got a captivate file I am supposed to work with. Unfortunately some of the placeholders on the quiz master slides where deleted. Is there any way to get them back, so I can design in the master and don’t have to do t every time I create a quiz?

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2020-03-23 10:02:56
2020-03-23 10:02:56

Hey Lieve,

Thank you so much! I am using Captivae 2019 11.5.1.499. I am using an individually built theme.

I found a solution (not sure if I using the correct names my version is not in english…)

  • Go to master slides view
  • Right click on a masterslide
  • slides/quizmaster slides there you can add new quizmaster slides

This will will add a new quiz master slide. You then can delete the old one.

I still have one problem:

I want to style the “retry” message (which shows, when I create a [multiple choice] quiz and choose on the slide properties quiz/actions/retry-notification)

Do I have to style it on every page or can I find this object somewhere in the master?

 

Best regards,

Frido

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2020-03-23 10:17:07
2020-03-23 10:17:07
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If this is a custom theme, please make sure first to upgrade to the present version. Especially for this 11.5 where themes have been refurbished and became more powerful.  You can indeed duplicate a quizzing master slide as I answered another user in another thread. It is important, since you need to have all embedded functionality. What you described means that the theme was NOT updated and you did add an original quizzing master slide from that theme. Test please, before you dart creating projects with that theme. Check all components.

What do you mean by ‘style’? There is a Retry message object style, for shapes and for captions. I suppose you are using shapes, but am not sure. However if you talk about the text itself, you have to look under Quiz Preferences, Default labels.

No need at all to ‘style’ on each quiz slide. If the quiz slides are already created you may need to use the option ‘Reset Master slide’. Best practice is however to do all styling before adding quiz slides.

Have a look at the tons of articles I wrote about default quiz slides. Have still more on custom question slides:

https://elearning.adobe.com/2019/11/quiz-resources/

You’ll find a downloadable pdf.

 

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2020-03-23 21:11:08
2020-03-23 21:11:08
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Hi Lieve,

Tank you for the PDF. All of your work is really helpful!
But you got me even more confused.

  • Captivate is up to date (checked for updates in the application), so I need to upgrade the theme as well.

It took quite a while to find anything on how to do that. All I found was this post:
Use themes from previous release with new version?

  1. Themes from previous version can be used directly in the latest upgrade but not vice-versa.

    Older Themes will be upgraded to latest version once applied/browsed in latest captivate version.

    Regards,

    Udaya

When I create a new theme and check the quizmaster, all the placeholders are there.

I guess as soon as you or someone else in the community can point me in the right direction on how to actually upgrade the theme I am working with, all my other questions will be solved, since they where a result of the missing “retry” placeholder.

What do you mean by ‘style’?

I actually just meant the position. As soon as I can change that in the master, all will be fine. ( I tell myself )

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2020-03-23 21:19:38
2020-03-23 21:19:38
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Check out eveerything, then use the Theme menu to save the custom theme. Especially quizzing slides are very sensitive. With the new Theme Properties panel in 11.5, check the fonts used, check the object styles, the master slides.

Position is not part of the style, but can be part of the master slide. Style is only about the color, stroke, character properties, everything you see in the Object Style Manager. Since any shape (if you use indeed shapes as text container) can also be defined as a button you’ll find the Rollover and Down states for each shape style as well,, but since you rarely will use them in Feedback messages, just ignoring is fine.

Do not believe than any older theme will be upgraded without issues, that is just marketing language.  Discipline in creating a theme has become more and more important. Too bad that most developers seem to ignore the basics of themes (as do most books and training programs).

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2020-03-23 21:34:02
2020-03-23 21:34:02
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wow you are fast!

“Too bad that most developers seem to ignore the basics of themes (as do most books and training programs)”

Jep, It”s hard to find a good guide for that.

“Check out everything, then use the Theme menu to save the custom theme. Especially quizzing slides are very sensitive. With the new Theme Properties panel in 11.5, check the fonts used, check the object styles, the master slides.”

I already did that. I exported the theme. Createt a new project, checked the quiz slide and everything was there. As soon as I import the theme, everything is gone again.

Please find pictures attached.

Attachment  Screenshots.zip

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2020-03-24 09:21:11
2020-03-24 09:21:11
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Guten Morgen!. I could always beat my secretary by my typing speed

I rarely accept to download files, but did look at your screenshots. Whow…. that is a very old theme, not surprising that it is not working on the present version of Captivate. I see a ‘skip’ button, no review navigation buttons, which means that the theme dates from at least 3 versions ago. Not astonishing that it will not update to the present version.

You do not export a theme (may be a terminology problem), you do save it. You can even set it as a default theme (all that information is in my many blog posts, which are for free).  I have spent literally thousands of hours writing all my blog posts, never got a dime.

To solve your problems you need to recreate that theme in the present version, do not try to upgrade it anymore, you will be having issues. It means:

  • choosing Theme fonts
  • creating a Theme Color palette
  • define object styles (maybe you can export some styles for reuse)
  • recreate the master slides, starting from the Blank theme (not from the default Pearl theme)
  • eventually if you need it, edit the Recording defaults
  • set up styles for the TOC if you plan to use it.

Not the workflow you expected, but at the end you’ll see that this will save you a lot of time. Now you are just losing time trying to put a 2020 engine in a car from 1960. Sorry, love driving…and now in lockdown.

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2020-03-24 09:24:48
2020-03-24 09:24:48
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goedemorgen!

I started to fear that. But well, I get paid for it…

I don’t really know how to thank you! All my best to Gent

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2020-03-24 09:27:52
2020-03-24 09:27:52
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I don’t live in Gent but in a smaller town, Aalst, midway between Brussels and Gent, now both very far due to lockdown.

Have helped many companies and developers, by training them explicitly for themes. All my trainees start each project by creating a theme. Wonder how many developers do that… Do not look at the theme examples in the Quick Start Projects, because they are not…. good themes. Wrote a lot about that as well.

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2020-03-23 08:21:25
2020-03-23 08:21:25

No answer yet? Do you still need help?

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2020-03-21 13:28:03
2020-03-21 13:28:03

Which version of Captivate do you use? Full version number, please, as found under Help, About Captivate.

Are you using a custom theme or one of the Captivate themes packaged with this version?

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